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 To scale perpetua first we need to scale characters she scales above and clear some downplay. a) The presence b) The source c) The downplay. As it stands today (19/10/2021) the presence is #369 on my strongest DC characters list. To start with He made the strongest archangels and was stated > them. Gabriel was > lucifer at this time Then it was michael>gabriel>lucifer Eventually lucifer ruled supreme He became an equal to him He also made other angels that are > early lucifer, michael and gabriel (you can see michael being stabbed and captured in the scan i showed of him) Meaning he is stronger than the angel of death which > michael > gabriel Next is the strongest weapon of the presence. The book of destiny Which chains the creation brothers. Lucifer tried for an eternity to get outside the book of destiny Lucifer needed the letter of passage to the overvoid to escape the presence’s plan/ book of destiny and to make his own creation. Even the presence told hi...